Leading With Empathy And Allyship Series

About the Series
Join us weekly to learn how to be a better ally and advocate, and lead with empathy. Come meet a new thought leader each week for a deep and real conversation about how we can be better allies and advocates – in our workplaces and communities. Each discussion will focus on building empathy and learning tangible, actionable steps we can all take to improve diversity, equity and inclusion.

Host: Melinda Briana Epler

Melinda Briana Epler has over 25 years of experience developing business innovation and inclusion strategies for startups, Fortune 500 companies, and global NGOs.

As CEO of Change Catalyst, Melinda currently works with the tech industry to solve diversity and inclusion together. Using her background in storytelling and large-scale culture change, she is a strategic advisor for tech companies, tech hubs, and governments around the world. She co-leads a series of global solutions-focused conferences called Tech Inclusion, where she has partnered with over 450 tech companies and community organizations and hosted 43 solutions-focused diversity and inclusion events around the world.

Previously, Melinda was a Marketing and Culture Executive and award-winning documentary filmmaker – her film and television work includes projects that exposed the AIDS crisis in South Africa, explored women’s rights in Turkey, and prepared communities for the effects of climate change. She has worked on several television shows, including NBC’s The West Wing.

Melinda is a TED speaker. She speaks, mentors and writes about diversity and inclusion in tech, allyship, social entrepreneurship, underrepresented entrepreneurs and investing. She has spoken on hundreds of stages around the world, including SXSW, Grace Hopper, Wisdom 2.0, the World Bank, Obama White House, Clinton Foundation, Black Enterprise, Google, Indeed, Capital One and McKinsey.

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Upcoming Episodes

Episode 29:

The Future of Belonging with Kat Gordon

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler on a conversation about The Future of Belonging with Kat Gordon.

Recorded live with audience Q&A on:

December 1, 2020 | 12:00 – 1:00 PM PT

"Episode 29: Leading with Empathy & Allyship: The Future of Belonging" Photos with text below: Melinda Briana Epler (White woman, glasses, red hair) & Kat Gordon (Woman, gray blazer, brown hair), Change Catalyst Logo

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Recent Episodes

Episode 28:

Emotional Tax and the Role of the Inclusive Leader with Andrea G. Tatum

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler on a conversation about Emotional Tax and the Role of the Inclusive Leader with Andrea G. Tatum.

Podcast and recording coming soon!

"Episode 28: Leading with Empathy & Allyship: Emotional Tax and The Role of The Inclusive Leader" Photos with text below: Melinda Briana Epler (White woman, glasses, red hair) & Andrea Tatum (Black woman, brown blazer, curly hair), Change Catalyst Logo

Episode 27:

How to Make Disability Accommodation and Inclusion the New Working Norm with Commissioner Victor Calise

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler with Commissioner Victor Calise, on discussing how to make disability accommodation the new norm in the working environment.

We talked about Commissioner Victor Calise’s disability journey and how he turned it into a strength, becoming one of the most innovative advocates for disability. In this rich conversation, we learned about:

  • The forward-thinking work NY is doing in collaboration with other cities to build inclusive working environments.
  • The need for ‘accommodation’ of the disabled community and how Covid-19 has helped accelerate the workplace’s transformation.
  • The impact of outdated regulations on the community
  • How we should not separate disability from the other movement fighting for a more inclusive working environment.

Some of our favorite quotes of the conversation:

  • “People with disabilities who didn’t have the opportunity to get to work because of their disability didn’t allow them to for transportation or immune reasons, whatever that might be, now is the opportunity. It is important because people with disabilities live in poverty and a way to get them up from poverty is through work.”
  • “The reality is that people with disabilities aren’t really disabled. It is our environments that disable us. If we can fix those environments so we can live our lives there is no such thing as disability.”

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Episode 26:

Exploring What It Means to be an Upstander with Daralyse Lyons

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler with Daralyse Lyons on understanding what it means to be an upstander. An upstander is an individual who sees wrong and acts also called an ally.

We talked about Daralyse Lyons’s upbringing as a biracial kid and what led her to become an advocate and an upstander. In this fascinating conversation,

We learned about:

  • Colorism and the dangerous path to rank people based on their skin colors.
  • The difference between an upstander and bystander and how can we become an ally.
  • The intersectionality of diversity and its assets to the corporate world and product development process.
  • The inclusive leadership path people can choose in a corporate environment to lead by example.

Some of our favorite quotes of our conversation:

  • “Once people start to connect with other people in a way that is emotional and real and maybe visceral, it becomes kind of impossible to disengage at that point.”
  • “I don’t pretend to know what’s best for any person. But I do think that when we start allowing ourselves to be defined by society and by other people’s expectations of us, that’s a huge problem.”
  • “I think that’s one thing that people can do if they really want to be allies is not to sort of superimpose our own definitions on to other people, but to ask them.”
  • “I think that this idea that we have to kind of rank people, and rank ourselves is so problematic”
  • “The bystanders are actually the ones who tend to make up the majority of the social collective and who tend to be the ones who have the ability to, if they will step into that upstander role, these atrocities don’t happen or at least we could stop them a lot sooner”

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Episode 25:

Understanding the Effects of Racism on Black Boys & Men

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler with Dr. Kevin Simon on Understanding the Effects of Racism on Black Boys & Men.

We talked about Dr. Kevin Simon’s journey to becoming a force for good and his work during COVID-19, helping Black and Brown kids and their families understand intergenerational trauma and historical trauma, and how the effects can manifest through depression and addiction.

We learned:

  • What ally can do to support this community
  • What are intergenerational trauma and historical trauma and their impact on mental and physical health
  • How important is to communicate with teenagers in a time of Covid-19 and social justice protest
  • How Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) like trauma are the roots of addiction and depression in teenage years

Some of our favorite quotes of our conversation:

  • “If you’re an ally, particularly to black and brown boys, particularly to the persons of color, you should be trying to promote institutions and environments policies that would be protective of that community.”
  • “ Whether we’re talking about mental health outcomes, depression, anxiety, suicidality, trauma or substance use, adverse childhood experiences are (ACEs) as are classically labeled. The more aces, you have, the worse your physical outcomes. So, hypertension, diabetes, like you’re talking about the worst mental health outcomes. So it is hugely important to try as best as we can to create an environment that can be responsive to what happened in my past, yet at the same time, shift, so that my future will look a little bit different”.

Learn more about Dr. Kevin Simons: www.kevinsimonmd.com/.

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Episode 24:

Pandemic and Parenting: How to Juggle the Impossible with Muna Hussaini

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler interview with Muna Hussaini, Chief of staff to Indeed CTO in conversation about how to navigate parenthood during the pandemic.

We talked about Muna’s own story as an American Muslim of building more inclusive workplaces. the impact of Black Live Matters on her kids and family and the new norm of handling Zoom calls with kids.

We learned:

  • The opportunity to redefine success in this tumultuous time.
  • The fact that it is ok not to handle everything.
  • The need for companies to walk the talk when they say that their employees are their most important assets.

Some of our favorite quotes of our conversation:

  • “We have an opportunity to redefine what success looks like so that the costs that were incurred by the few are now shared collectively and I think if we can redefine what that looks like, we win together.”
  • “People have to know that if they share something that maybe makes them vulnerable that they have the psychological safety to share and that they won’t be penalized for it and it can be really hard.”
  • “I have always struggled with is guilt from being away from my kids.”

Listen to Muna’s new podcast, 3 Righteous Mamas on Apple Podcasts.

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Episode 23:

Opening Doors For The Disabled Community with KR Liu

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler with KR Liu, Head of Brand Accessibility at Google in conversation about how we can make the working environment more inclusive for people with disabilities.

We talked about KR Liu’s incredible journey to becoming an advocate, based on her own story of struggling in the workplace with dealing with hearing loss.

We learned:

  • The importance of speaking up and making the disabled community part of every department in a company.
  • The dramatic statistic with regards to the representation of the disabled community in the workplace and even more for the Black disabled community
  • The simple actions you can put in place to help to make this community more visible. 1 in 4 people experience disability at some points including permanent, temporary or situational.

Some of our favorite quotes of our conversation:

  • ” Every day I have the power to influence someone’s life”
  • “50% of the people killed by the police are black and have a disability”
  • ” Disability is something we all experience at some point in our lives”
  • “If anything, we want people to feel empowered by us on what we have been able to achieve. That’s really, really important that people understand the contribution that disabled people have made to society”

Learn more about KR Liu www.krliu.com/

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Episode 22:

Becoming a Skilled LGBTQ+ Advocate with Jeannie Gainsburg

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler with Jeannie Gainsburg, Founder Savvy Ally Action in conversation about how we can become a better advocate for the LGBTQ+ community.

We talk about actionable steps companies can make to create a more inclusive environment for the LGBTQ+ employees and some tips about having difficult conversations with people who might not think like us. Jeannie shares some tips based on her 15 years of practice leading workshops for companies.

Learn more about Jeannie Gainsburg: www.savvyallyaction.com/about.

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Episode 21:

A Conversation on Impostor Syndrome with Dr. Adia Gooden, Clinical Psychologist

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler with Dr Adia Gooden, Clinical psychologist in conversation about how we can support ourselves and each other to overcome Impostor Syndrome.

We talk about how Impostor Syndrome shows up and how it is affecting our lives preventing us from reaching our full potential. The pervasive influence of Impostor Syndrome is underestimated, and often exacerbated by discrimination and stereotype threat. It can prevent us from asking questions, and speaking up. It can hold our career and relationships back. Dr. Adia Gooden discusses with us some of the solutions and practices we can implement to overcome this well-spread syndrome.

Learn more about Dr Adia Gooden: https://dradiagooden.com/

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Episode 20:

Using Data to Drive Change with Danny Allen

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler with Danny Allen, VP of Tech Diversity & Inclusion at SAP Labs in conversation about Using Data to Drive Change.

Danny Allen has been an engineer in the tech industry for over 30 years, and the last four as an executive focused on diversity, equity and inclusion. In this episode he talks about why he made the jump to create change, and the different projects he oversees across the tech ecosystem to make that happen. We discuss how he uses a diversity dashboard to help drive understanding, accountability, behavior change and equity across the organization.

Learn more about Diversity and Inclusion at SAP – including their integrated report.

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Episode 19:

Cultivating Empathy as a Skill with Corey Ponder

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler with Corey Ponder, Empathy Practitioner & Facilitator at em|PACT Strategies, in conversation about Cultivating Empathy as a Skill.

We talk about Corey’s story, and how he started emPACT Strategies after the deaths of Philando Castile and Alton Sterling. Then we dive into three types of empathy, and ways to build empathy inside organizations by using design thinking frameworks. We talk about allies as being the “trusted sidekick” in a super hero movie, and how to show up as an ally in this crucial moment – to ensure we are moving racial equity forward. And we discuss ways that we can facilitate difficult conversations so that people with widely different backgrounds find common ground to move toward solutions. We end with a conversation with the audience about what barriers they face as allies, and talk through some solutions.

Learn more about Corey’s work at www.empactstrategies.com/
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Episode 18:

Leading the Change with Irma Olguin Jr.

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler with Irma Olguin Jr, CEO & Co-Founder at Bitwise Industries, in conversation about Leading the Change.

We talk about Irma’s story as a granddaughter of immigrants, who starting out working as a farm laborer in the California Central Valley. After earning an engineering degree, she eventually became CEO of a company working to improve diversity and inclusion in tech through technology education. Irma recently closed a Series A round of fundraising of $27M, one of the largest ever led by a Latinx female founder. We discuss innovative ways that leaders can build empathy and allyship across the organization, how to build a sense of belonging during unprecedented times, and what allyship looks like for Irma.

Learn more about Irma’s work at Bitwise Industries.

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Episode 17:

Engaging Leadership with Lionel Lee

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler with Lionel Lee, Head of Diversity Engagement at Zillow Group, in conversation about Engaging Leadership. We talk about Lionel’s story, what empathy looks like in 2020, how Lionel has worked with leadership to build allyship and deepen understanding for people from underrepresented identities, and the deep work of building empathy across the company.

Learn more about Zillow Group’s work on Equity and Belonging.

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Episode 16:

Becoming a Great Ally

Join Leading with Empathy and Allyship Host Melinda Briana Epler, Founder & CEO of Change Catalyst, as she shares what it means to be an ally in 2020. She’ll discuss her own path to allyship and the Stages of Allyship. She touches on ways to be anti-racist, interrupt microaggressions, and address systemic inequities in the workplace, and of course some very tangible ways you can be a better ally in the workplace.

This is the end of Season 1 – we will be back with Season 2 in early September!

Learn more about Melinda Briana Epler and her work.

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Episode 15:

Creating Structural Change in the Workplace

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler with Rachel Williams, Head of Equity, Inclusion & Diversity at X – the moonshot factory to discuss Creating Structural Change in the Workplace.

Learn more about Rachel on her website: www.rachelannwilliams.com/

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Episode 14:

Moving From Structural Inequality to Human Flourishing

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler with Dr. Angel Acosta, Principal Consultant at Acosta Consulting to discuss Moving From Structural Inequality to Human Flourishing.

Learn more about Dr. Angel Acosta at www.drangelacosta.com/

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Episode 13:

Women Championing Women

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler with Brenda Darden Wilkerson, President & CEO at Anitab.org to discuss Women Championing Women.

We address the role allyship plays in advancing gender and racial equity for Black women, how women can better support and champion other women, and how companies can support women and build allyship between women.

Learn more about Brenda’s work at https://anitab.org/

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Episode 12:

Hiring Veterans to Drive Innovation

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler with Jerome Hardaway, Founder & Executive Director at Vets Who Code to discuss Hiring Veterans to Drive Innovation.

Learn more about Jerome’s work at vetswhocode.io/ or donate at vetswhocode.io/donate/

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Episode 11:

Advancing Racial Equity in the Workplace

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler with Tonya Ladipo, Founder of The Ladipo Group to discuss Advancing Racial Equity in the Workplace.

Learn more about Tonya’s work at theladipogroup.com/.

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Episode 10:

Living & Leading through Fear, Bias & Othering

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler with Ritu Bhasin, Speaker, Author & Consultant at Bhasin Consulting Inc. to discuss Living & Leading through Fear, Bias & Othering.

Learn more about Ritu’s work at bhasinconsulting.com/

 

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Episode 9:

Being a Great Ally for Trans and Gender Nonconforming Colleagues

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler (she/her) with Sloan Leo (they/them), Max Masure (they/them) and Madelena Mak (she/her) to discuss Being a Great Ally for Trans and Gender Nonconforming Colleagues.

Learn more about Sloan’s work at sloanleo.com/ and thevaidgroup.com/
Learn more about Max’s work at www.maxmasure.com/
Learn more about Madelena’s work at startupbus.com/

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Episode 8:

Understanding Intergenerational Trauma & Its Impact in the Workplace

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler with Michael Thomas, Shareholder at Ogletree Deakins to discuss Intergenerational Trauma & Its Impact in the Workplace.

We discuss deep, intergenerational racial trauma that can be passed from generation to generation. We explore how that can show up physically, emotionally and spiritually; what some triggers are; how we can recognize and heal these in ourselves; and how we can collectively recognize and correct continued trauma and make space for healing.

Please note this episode does talk about trauma, as well as ways to heal. Please make sure you watch in a safe space where you have time to reflect and practice self-care afterward.

Learn more about Michael’s work at ogletree.com/ and www.linkedin.com/in/michael-thomas-46b7a212/.

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Episode 7:

Strengthening LGBTQIA+ Leadership in the Workplace

In this episode, Change Catalyst CEO Melinda Briana Epler speaks with Jennifer Brown, Founder & CEO of Jennifer Brown Consulting, about Strengthening LGBTQIA+ Leadership in the Workplace. We discuss language, covering, coming out, intersectionality, employee resource groups, and creating safe and inclusive workplaces.

Learn more about Jennifer’s work at jenniferbrownspeaks.com/

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Episode 6:

Exploring Empathy, Islamophobia and Muslim Identity

In this episode, Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler speaks with Najeeba Syeed, Associate Professor of Interreligious Education at Claremont School of Theology on Empathy, Islamophobia and Muslim Identity.

Najeeba speaks a bit about her story as a young immigrant from Kashmir, who grew up bicultural and exposed to many religions, which has given her a great skill to work with people across religions. We talk about the breadth of intersectional Muslim identities, Islamophobia vs. anti-Muslim bias, and religious pluralism. We dive into embodied empathy and how to build empathy and prevent conflicts across organizations, and Najeeba shares a wishlist for allies.

Learn more about Najeeba’s work at najeeba.com and twitter.com/NajeebaSyeed

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Episode 5:

Advocating for People with Disabilities

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler with Tiffany Yu, CEO & Founder at Diversability to discuss ways to be an effective ally and advocate for people with a wide diversity of disabilities.

In this episode, we talk about Tiffany’s disability origin story, and her path to growing into her disability identity. We speak a bit about #NoBodyIsDisposable and what people with disabilities are experiencing during COVID19. Tiffany shares her experience as a person with intersectional identities as an Asian disabled woman, we discuss the significance of the 30th Anniversary of the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), and go over disability identity language. And we go over many ways that leaders can better lead with empathy and allyship for people with disabilities.

Learn more about Tiffany’s work at Diversability 

 

More to learn for Allies – Tiffany mentioned many of these in this episode:

  1. Diversability’s Resources for Allies
  2. Building Equity and Allyship for People with Disabilities” at Tech Inclusion 2019, panel moderated by Tiffany Yu
  3. Disability is Diversity” – Tiffany’s Tech Inclusion talk:
  4. The Power of Exclusion” – Tiffany’s TEDx talk
  5. Change Catalyst’s Ability in Tech playlist on Youtube:
  6. Watch “Crip Camp” on Netflix
  7. I’m disabled and need a ventilator to live. Am I expendable during this pandemic?” by Alice Wong on Vox
  8. I’m not your inspiration, thank you very much” by Stella Young on TED
  9. No Body Is Disposable
  10. Stop AAPI Hate

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Episode 4:

Amplifying the Latinx Experience in the Workplace

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler with Daisy Auger-Domínguez, CEO of Auger-Domínguez Ventures, to discuss Amplifying the Latinx Experience in the Workplace. Daisy has been an executive at Moody’s, Time Warner, Disney, Google and Viacom, and is the new Chief People Officer at Vice Media Group.

In this episode, we talk about Daisy’s path to leadership as a Dominican-Puerto Rican – a journey full of sponsors and allies that believed in her, promoted her, pushed her and supported her. We discuss the difference between Hispanic, Latino/Latina, and Latinx, and we dive deep into how to create change through amplification. Finally, we discuss what individuals can do to be great allies and create culture change within organizations.

Learn more about Daisy’s work at daisyauger-dominguez.com

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Episode 3:

Supporting Indigenous Power, Leadership & Community

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler with Vanessa Roanhorse, CEO at Roanhorse Consulting to discuss Indigenous Power, Leadership and Community. In this episode, we talk about Vanessa’s path to leadership and helping entrepreneurs access capital, what’s happening with Native American tribes during COVID-19, what Power really means and why it’s so important, and how allies can help repair the deep inequities created by years of colonialism and marginalization. Vanessa also talks about her own path as an ally and advocate for other people.

Take Action:

  1. Learn more about, and support, Vanessa’s work at Roanhorse Consulting and Native Women Lead.
  2. Donate to Native American Community Response Fund (also a great resource to continue your learning).
  3. RELEARN American history from the point of view of Native Americans. History is usually told from the point of view of colonizers, we have to relearn what we’ve been taught.
    1. Recommended Reading List from FirstNations.org
    2. Reclaiming Diné History by Jennifer Nez Denetdale
    3. An Indigenous Peoples’ History of the United States by Roxanne Dunbar-Ortiz
  4. Read more about the COVID Crisis and take action:
    1. “The risk to Native American nations from Covid-19” by Kent Sepkowitz (CNN)
    2. “10 steps to save Native Americans from Covid-19 catastrophe” by Van Jones (CNN)
    3. “Navajo community left to fight COVID-19 with limited resources” by Matt Gutman, Robert Zepeda, Tenzin Shakya and Allie Yang (ABC News)
    4. Navajo Department of Public Health COVID-19 Resources

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Episode 2:

Addressing Mental Health During COVID-19

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler in Episode 2 of a new series: Leading with Empathy & Allyship. In this episode we discuss Mental Health During COVID-19 with Dr. Jessi Gold and Dr. Ayana Jordan.

If you need help please reach out:

  • Disaster Distress Helpline: 1-800-985-5990
  • National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 1-800-273-8255
  • Crisis Textline: Text TALK to 741741
  • Physician Support Line: physiciansupportline.com
  • Project Parachute – pro-bono therapy for COVID-19 Frontliners: eleos.health/parachute

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Episode 1:

Countering Xenophobia in the Workplace

Join Change Catalyst Founder & CEO Melinda Briana Epler for the first installment in a new series: Leading with Empathy & Allyship. In the first episode we discuss Countering Xenophobia in the Workplace with Co-Founder and CEO of Awaken, Michelle Kim.

Defining xenophobia and anti-Asian racism, harassment and bullying during COVID-19 and beyond; intersectionality and the myth of the “model minority”; holding ourselves accountable as allies and accomplices; practical ways companies can address these issues in the workplace; and more! 

Additional resources for allies:

  1. Awaken’s virtual training on Combating Xenophobia
  2. Allyship (& Accomplice): The What, Why, and How by Michelle Kim
  3. Coronavirus fears show how ‘model minority’ Asian Americans become the ‘yellow peril’ by Matthew Lee, NBC News
  4. Report Hate Crimes and Incidents via Stop APPI Hate

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